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Thanks to http://www.quakewiki.net/ and other mirrors we've got planetquake and quakesrc tutorials preserved, and inside3d has QIP. What other history is out there?

web.archive.org wayback machine saved some surprisingly obscure stuff-

Quake Weenie (strategy guide)
http://web.archive.org/web/200106040817 ... com/quake/

Quake Source Mailing List, although very little was archived. 'oldman' must be really old by now.
http://web.archive.org/web/200105240846 ... ?by=Thread

Quake on lcc compiler, when MSVC wasn't free
http://web.archive.org/web/200106020405 ... quake.html

Quake Tips and Tricks from Stomped.com
http://web.archive.org/web/199904240054 ... ricks.html

The "good" stuff at Quakesrc.org was the stuff buried in the forum. The tutorials were ok, but the highly detailed technical talk and the user submitted tutorial sections were the "best stuff".

That stuff is in archive.org.

But once you see how archive.org stored the forum archives ... *ulp* ... there is no way to establish any kind of thread/post identity.

Yeah you mean this thread in a broader sense, I just want to Chip [pun intended Is that a pun? I forget what a pun is exactly] in some infos.

What other history is out there?

QuakeTerminus for sure, Spirit's interesting collections of stuffs randomly aggregated (seemingly a higher interest in physical and media acquisition -- when you think of it), leileilol's collection of Quake crap.

Well ... there are newsgroup postings of Quake in google groups from the 1990s. You can spot some FrikaC 1999 conversations with long gone interested parties of the day talking about highly technical stuffs that maybe one day I'll understand.

I personally think that in some ways the PlanetQuake file mirror contains a ton of cultural history ... not in the files per se ... but the mindset of modders and what they thought of doing.

And I'll throw in the dead RetroQuake site which is in Chip's archive which reviewed mods plus the ancient single player review sites.

I guess it is where and what type of history are you are looking for? Modding history? Engine/QuakeC stuffs? More general?

The historical mood was partially brought on by exploration of the QIP engine via Engoo, and I wanted to see any existing historical conversation of features like the QIP cvar system. Why and how were conclusions reached?

The "good" stuff at Quakesrc.org was the stuff buried in the forum. The tutorials were ok, but the highly detailed technical talk and the user submitted tutorial sections were the "best stuff".

Seems web.archive.org does not cache pages generated from databases (like forums). quakesrc was a site that brought people out of their development 'silos' with idea sharing between projects and even between q1/q2/q3 engines. A lot of great conversation lost here.

QSG on wayback. Can't read the forum but even the topics can be interesting-
http://web.archive.org/web/200112030959 ... agged.com/

Most likely here.

Most likely here.

I'll be darned!